• Antithetical
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    5712 hours ago

    I’m sorry, but have you ever needed to manage some certificates for a legacy system or something that isn’t just a simple public facing webserver?

    Automation becomes complicated very quickly. And you don’t want to give DNS mutation access to all those systems to renew with DNS-01.

    • @[email protected]
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      319 hours ago

      Ahh yes the: we can’t have self signed certificates for security reasons but also can’t open up the environment to the web, and we dont have our own CA server, trifecta.

      Solution: awkward, manual, certificate import process from a 3rd party vendor.

      • @[email protected]
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        148 hours ago

        Even if you have an internal CA, few appliances support this kind of automation. At best, they have an API, and you get to write that automation yourself for each appliance.

        • @[email protected]
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          66 hours ago

          Knew a place where, for some devices, it was only available via a web interface. It was automated via WebDriver by a sysadmin that was losing his mind.

      • Antithetical
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        1411 hours ago

        Yes, and that is where we enter the complicated territories…

          • @[email protected]
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            340 minutes ago

            If you think it’s just too easy but people are still discussing it, please entertain the notion that you may have oversimplified the situation in your assessment and that as assumptions become clarified you may yet soon understand a horror that apple can’t quite grok.