• @[email protected]
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    258 months ago

    They might be stuck in insert or replace mode. Nobody mentioned hitting escape before :x or :q!

    • @[email protected]
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      68 months ago

      Lol, as if they haven’t already tried Esc half a dozen times before googling how exit vim

    • @[email protected]
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      48 months ago

      If the idea of hitting escape didn’t spark for them, I don’t think they can even get into insert mode

    • @[email protected]
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      148 months ago

      Was watching a twitch streamer learning linux, and chat convinced them to open vim for the first time. Not a single person gave the real answer of how to exit, all joke answers like “Power off,” and it was hilarious.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s really not that bad. [ESC] :wq Escape to exit input mode and enter command mode, then the command indicator : w for write and q for quit. To quit without writing force it with :q!. Done.

    • @[email protected]
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      Well, depending on how long one is trying to exit Vim and hence the level of frustration, exiting Vim might involve the use of a sledgehammer…

      • palordrolap
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        Dude’s in bed. ZZ is clearly the superior choice for the sleepy vi user.

        • @[email protected]
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          68 months ago

          Personally prefer :xprobably because it’s a little more ergonomic, as Z is all the way in the corner (QWERTY), and is the same key twice, while : and x are in two different spots, and can therefore be hit faster.

          I know, it’s like millisecond differences, but, hey, I’m a vim user.

      • The Stoned Hacker
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        :x will save and exit. The difference between :x and :wq is that the latter will always write to the buffer, while the former will only do so if theres a change.

    • synae[he/him]
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      28 months ago

      I like :cq for if I want to cancel my git commit message (or similar)

  • @[email protected]
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    68 months ago

    I have the feeling these editors only make sense on US keyboards. Like “:” for what? This is not a primary sign anywhere, why not just control like a normal person, working on every keyboard?

      • @[email protected]
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        18 months ago

        Thats what I mean, “/” too, makes no sense at all for search. Its Ctrl+F, Ctrl+S, Ctrl+O, Ctrl+X etc.

        Thats why nano makes more sense for all people, but I suppose vim could be edited to be like that?

        • @[email protected]
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          48 months ago

          emacs is close to that besides all the ctrl+ combinations being nonsensical. the actual reason either arent very popular is the steep initial curve and the fact that most people dont even care about editing text that much and also the delayed gratification for the amount of time it takes to get used to. but once ure used to vim u kinda want vim everywhere

  • SokathHisEyesOpen
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    38 months ago

    I don’t understand why this is such a popular meme. Take 5 minutes to read about how Vim works, and you won’t have any more issues.

    • TimeSquirrel
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      I shouldn’t really have to look up the instruction manual of a text editor to do a simple action like close the program. Every single other text editor I’ve ever used was intuitive enough to get started right away, going back to 1989.

      • Andrew
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        28 months ago

        If it’s not intuitive enough then don’t use it and don’t open it. You can always close with Ctrl+z and then kill it. Or close a terminal window like any other intuitive editor.

      • @[email protected]
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        Well, it works well for some people.

        Once you get used to it, it can be a dang powerful tool. For people doing a lot of config-wrangling on the CLI (i.e. admins working a lot ovet SSH), overcoming the learning curve will pay dividends.

        If you’re working mostly locally and in a GUI environment environment, it’s probably not worth it - there’s a reason most devs use more specialized IDE’s.

    • @[email protected]
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      Nowadays it’s easy when you open vim inside gnome terminal, in my old offline noob days it was like “oh shit my terminal is locked” and the way out was either Alt+F2 and then try again or Ctrl+Z; pkill %1.

      I never caught the vim bug and started with using joe and switched to nano later, I played with Emacs for some time but ended up using a GUI editor instead.